McMurphy
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This the dark ages. MI attitudes need to change!
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Post by McMurphy on Oct 18, 2014 20:29:13 GMT
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Post by kirsteenie on Oct 19, 2014 7:54:11 GMT
No mcmurphy not what i am saying at all- it is just important that we focus on finding new ways of doing things rather than fighting old power structures which will inevitably collapse as people awaken.
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Post by libra on Oct 19, 2014 19:36:36 GMT
For the purpose of moving forward or debate surely it is essential to have someone as the figure head, with clear goals and aims of what the movement want in terms of new powers, failing independence which is our ultimate goal. In the future of the movement when we have a platform for proper debate with the established parties we must have people we as a movement have confidence in who will fight our corner, it is not feasible to go forward without leadership and spokespeople otherwise we are seen as unorganised or a mob. While the establishment structures are in place we have to be equally ready to take this on and beat it on that ground before lasting changes can occur we are and should be people led, with the peoples best interests at heart, it is all well and good rallying and speakers backing what we want but we must find a way of being taken seriously and not as the beaten and bitter losers.
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Post by kirsteenie on Oct 21, 2014 9:57:31 GMT
I see what your saying. But your speaking about this subject within such small parameters. Its time for a revolution all over the world, to use the current corrupt system to bring about change is playing by their rules. Change the rules, people need to speak to as many friends/ family members about this and educate themselves online. The people doing the debates on the telly are fighting for a better system but it will still be the same political system- its about building communities like this and spreading the word. So i dont agree a figure head is necessary
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Post by libra on Oct 21, 2014 10:20:58 GMT
Oh, i think change needs to happen everywhere and we are certainly not on our own when looking at the big picture. I was speaking of us as a group, sorry for the confusion.
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